Alec, people are very pissed off at you right now, and at least two aren't speaking to you for a while, at the least. I can't believe that you think that this was okay by any stretch of the imagination... Not only was it irresponsible and stupid, you know better.
Maybe their Authors didn't care. Maybe the characters won't remember any of it, and it'll wear off shortly. Maybe it was fun. But you know what? It's still wrong.
*in a tone that's cold enough to freeze boiling water* Alec, the only reason that I'm not maiming you already is that I'm told that being hasty is a bad thing, and that I shall not shoot first and ask questions later. You may or may not even care, I don't know and I intend to find out one way or another.
*reminds herself not to bite the heads off of innocent people**this is much better than she would have been able to manage two years ago*
Too late for that. SO already knows. Hell if I know what kind of trouble this is going to get him into, but I imagine that it's not going to be pleasant.
I'm not entirely sane anytime, I might point out. I've been an agent for over three years now, four if you count time I've spent in training, Chem. I am homocidal and bitter beyond sane or insane amounts... but I never forget why I'm like this. I'm like this because I've been dealing with Sues for too long, and I've been doing everything I possibly can to de-rail the little buggers from screwing up canon left and right.
You may not know this, but this is not the first time Alec has Sue-d someone. He's done it before and he's seen what happened because of it... a lot of headaches, a lot of mental scarring, and various other unpleasant things.
I've known Alec for a long time. As long as I've been an agent.
I am TIRED of hearing excuses from him. I'm sick and tired of it. Tired of hearing his excuses as to why he still has fits where he acts like a Stu, tired of hearing how he's mucked about with canons just for his own fun, tired of hearing how he's hurt people I care about, I'm tired of hearing how he's turned a roomful of canons into bloody Mary Sues. I have to deal with this shit, pardon my French, from someone who's supposed to be on my side. Someone who's supposed to care about me in some vague and temporally strange way.
It feels like being betrayed, that's what it feels like. It feels like being stabbed in the back just because it seemed fun at the time. Maybe you know what that's like, maybe you don't... Hopefully you won't, because it sucks and it leaves a person feeling awfully bitter. I've already got enough of that feeling to last me two or three lifetimes.
I meant sane relarive to his normal state. I dunno if you heard, but *drops voice to a whisper* he was involved in a rescue mission on his own world that, um...didn't go well, and he was forced to do some things that no parent should ever have to do. I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop for days, since I saw him that first night he was back. Chaos will only tolerate so much before all Hell breaks loose. *Returns to normal speaking volume.* I'm not excusing what he's done, just questioning whether he was himself at the time. As horribly wrong as this was, I'm kinda relieved it wasn't worse. Nobody got hurt, and the effects were temporary. It was still horribly wrong, and I can't blame you for feeling betrayed. On the bright side, we now seem to have a drug to treat temporary Sueness. Fin hasn't finished it yet, but it sure worked wonders on me. Man that sparkly!Link-in-Pink was disturbing...
Alec, you owe a lot of people a very humble, very formal, and, above all, very sincere apology.
I have heard, thanks. I've seen a lot of damn things that no one should have to see... No, it doesn't excuse what he's done. Yes, it's horrible, and yes, I can understand why he'd be torn up about it.
Tch. Whatever... I'm not going to stress out about this anymore than I have to...
Never mind. I'm going to go beat up things in the gym for a while. I need it.
If you want to talk to me later, you know where my center is. If you don't have anything to say to me, then you can just fuck off.
I'll translate that into nice plain terms for you, since you probably don't have a good handle on my way of expressing myself. You seem to have bundled up all of your bad feelings and decided to let them loose by screwing over canon characters. Canon characters that I have sacrificed blood, sanity, and probably most if not all of the rest of my life to protect.
If that means nothing to you, and you think that it's not too much to step on in order to make things peachy for yourself, then I've been wrong about you. If that's the case, then I can only blame myself for the hurt. I'll live, and you can go fuck yourself.
If it's not, and you do care, then you'll get your godddamn act together and take responsiblity for what you did and do something about it. Something that doesn't involve you moping for months about how you're weak and there's nothing you can do about. There's always something you can do, if you're not too lazy to find it.
You can say what you want about me. I'm a bitch, I've been told so, and I'm not the best person in the world when it comes to helping people with personal problems. Even people that I care about. It's just not something that I'm good at... but if someone I care about needs me, I'm there. I may not be able to do anything but kick the ass of someone who's causing the problem, but I'd do that much.
Just because I haven't been holding your hand every day and telling you so, I've cared about you, even more so after I had to deal with your five-year old incarnation. I still have that picture you drew for me on the weapons locker, and it's laminated so that the minis won't scorch it. I don't know if you've been like a son to me, maybe more like a godson.
Which is why I can't really take it right now if you want to tell me that you don't give a damn about thumbing your nose at my life's work. I'm doing a lot by admitting that, I hope you know... This is hard for me.
After I've thoroughly exhausted myself, I'll be in a better position to take that from you. My cynical, pessimistic side will take over completely and file it away with all of the other things that have caused me psycological and emotional distress.
Either way, I need to let off some steam before my blood pressure gets to dangerous levels.
I have no intention of moping about for weeks on end. I have already offered to make amends to those that I did offend and have distributed all photographs back to their owners so that they may do with them what they will. I have also went willingly with Captain Carrot when he desired to arrest me and was turned into a ferret.
As for the actual act itself, I made sure it was contained to the Nexus itself and that it wouldn't get out into the canon worlds. If I had thought for one moment that it was going leave the Nexus itself, I wouldn't have done it.
And to be quite frank, I would rather gas the nexus a hundred times then harm any of you, physically or with my endless whining. Having interacted enough with the nexus people I can say that a lot of them have moved on from canonness into fanon. They aren't original characters, but they are no longer what they were. More like interpitations or AU's.
I would NEVER gas a canon world. If I thought for a moment that a Norman Osborn who doesn't mind being a woman and would marry another man was canon, I wouldn't have gassed the Nexus.
That's all I have to say for now. We can and should talk more later.
But I have a party to go to at home. And I'm already late enough as it is.
Although Talia is very resolutely not paying attention to this thread anymore, I'll tell you right now that it doesn't matter to her if the canons at Sages are mainly really AU. It doesn't matter that other people scew them up on a daily basis. Other people aren't you, aren't PPC agents. A canon character is a canon character, and no PPC agent should be responsible for mucking them up any more than they already are. Especially not by turning them into the very thing that agents are fighting in the first place.
I am glad that you made amends with those at Sages. I just hope that you'll find a way to do the same with the PPC side.
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Maybe their Authors didn't care. Maybe the characters won't remember any of it, and it'll wear off shortly. Maybe it was fun. But you know what? It's still wrong.
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Too late for that. SO already knows. Hell if I know what kind of trouble this is going to get him into, but I imagine that it's not going to be pleasant.
I'm not entirely sane anytime, I might point out. I've been an agent for over three years now, four if you count time I've spent in training, Chem. I am homocidal and bitter beyond sane or insane amounts... but I never forget why I'm like this. I'm like this because I've been dealing with Sues for too long, and I've been doing everything I possibly can to de-rail the little buggers from screwing up canon left and right.
You may not know this, but this is not the first time Alec has Sue-d someone. He's done it before and he's seen what happened because of it... a lot of headaches, a lot of mental scarring, and various other unpleasant things.
I've known Alec for a long time. As long as I've been an agent.
I am TIRED of hearing excuses from him. I'm sick and tired of it. Tired of hearing his excuses as to why he still has fits where he acts like a Stu, tired of hearing how he's mucked about with canons just for his own fun, tired of hearing how he's hurt people I care about, I'm tired of hearing how he's turned a roomful of canons into bloody Mary Sues. I have to deal with this shit, pardon my French, from someone who's supposed to be on my side. Someone who's supposed to care about me in some vague and temporally strange way.
It feels like being betrayed, that's what it feels like. It feels like being stabbed in the back just because it seemed fun at the time. Maybe you know what that's like, maybe you don't... Hopefully you won't, because it sucks and it leaves a person feeling awfully bitter. I've already got enough of that feeling to last me two or three lifetimes.
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Alec, you owe a lot of people a very humble, very formal, and, above all, very sincere apology.
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Tch. Whatever... I'm not going to stress out about this anymore than I have to...
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But that would be rather pointless, now wouldn't it? So I'm not.
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If you want to talk to me later, you know where my center is. If you don't have anything to say to me, then you can just fuck off.
I'll translate that into nice plain terms for you, since you probably don't have a good handle on my way of expressing myself. You seem to have bundled up all of your bad feelings and decided to let them loose by screwing over canon characters. Canon characters that I have sacrificed blood, sanity, and probably most if not all of the rest of my life to protect.
If that means nothing to you, and you think that it's not too much to step on in order to make things peachy for yourself, then I've been wrong about you. If that's the case, then I can only blame myself for the hurt. I'll live, and you can go fuck yourself.
If it's not, and you do care, then you'll get your godddamn act together and take responsiblity for what you did and do something about it. Something that doesn't involve you moping for months about how you're weak and there's nothing you can do about. There's always something you can do, if you're not too lazy to find it.
You can say what you want about me. I'm a bitch, I've been told so, and I'm not the best person in the world when it comes to helping people with personal problems. Even people that I care about. It's just not something that I'm good at... but if someone I care about needs me, I'm there. I may not be able to do anything but kick the ass of someone who's causing the problem, but I'd do that much.
Just because I haven't been holding your hand every day and telling you so, I've cared about you, even more so after I had to deal with your five-year old incarnation. I still have that picture you drew for me on the weapons locker, and it's laminated so that the minis won't scorch it. I don't know if you've been like a son to me, maybe more like a godson.
Which is why I can't really take it right now if you want to tell me that you don't give a damn about thumbing your nose at my life's work. I'm doing a lot by admitting that, I hope you know... This is hard for me.
After I've thoroughly exhausted myself, I'll be in a better position to take that from you. My cynical, pessimistic side will take over completely and file it away with all of the other things that have caused me psycological and emotional distress.
Either way, I need to let off some steam before my blood pressure gets to dangerous levels.
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As for the actual act itself, I made sure it was contained to the Nexus itself and that it wouldn't get out into the canon worlds. If I had thought for one moment that it was going leave the Nexus itself, I wouldn't have done it.
And to be quite frank, I would rather gas the nexus a hundred times then harm any of you, physically or with my endless whining. Having interacted enough with the nexus people I can say that a lot of them have moved on from canonness into fanon. They aren't original characters, but they are no longer what they were. More like interpitations or AU's.
I would NEVER gas a canon world. If I thought for a moment that a Norman Osborn who doesn't mind being a woman and would marry another man was canon, I wouldn't have gassed the Nexus.
That's all I have to say for now. We can and should talk more later.
But I have a party to go to at home. And I'm already late enough as it is.
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I am glad that you made amends with those at Sages. I just hope that you'll find a way to do the same with the PPC side.